DO ATV’s REALLY FLOAT? |

ATV boating, wet tech tips & drown-out cures

Do ATV’s Float?

A question ATV riders have been pondering for decades is, “Do ATV’s float?” Joe Lepore of Loxahatchee, Fl, claims his FourTrax Foreman 400 not only floats but can actually motor along in the local canals with a rider on board! He even has the photos to prove it. Joe did, however, have to per­form a major waterproofing job on the entire machine as well as add a snorkel air-intake extension up to the handlebars.

“Whatever you do, don’t turn the en­gine off when you’re floating,” says Joe. “Water will go right up the vent tubes.” That sort of answers our other quads-’n-water question, “Can you ‘walk’ an ATV across a deep stream?” Yes, as long as you keep the en­gine running and hold it upright high enough to keep the air intake above the waterline. Your chances of success with that method, of course, de­pends on the ATV model.

Do ATV’s Float?

“We’ve found that the Foreman is one of the best floaters out there,” says Joe. “My pals and I have set up several of these Hondas, and we have a blast.” We asked him about the practice of sticking rubber balls up un­der the frame for extra flotation. “They aren’t the magic bullet,” he ex­plained. “That puts the center of flotation in the middle and makes it more un­­stable for sitting on. Some people al­­so try boat buoys and they don’t do much either.”

But we also wondered how a sport quad, such as the Mojave 250, would react in deep water. To give it a sporting chance on running in the water, we add­­ed two basketballs, one in the front bumper and one under the rear grab bar.

Our plan was to slowly low­er it into a swimming pool, without a rid­er but with the engine running, to see if it could stay afloat and continue to run. As quickly as it hit deep water, the front end dropped straight to the bottom as water filled in all the air spac­es and killed the engine.

Then the machine did something quite un­ex­pected: it turned completely upside down on its own and floated wheels-up around the pool. We righted it several times, but it kept flipping over like a scared possum.

Even with the basketballs re­moved, the machine would not completely sink due to the flotation from the tires. Contrary to what you might think, adding more air pressure to the tires doesn’t give them more floating power and, in fact, just makes them heavier.

“Oh, they built the ship Titanic, and they said when it was through, that it was a ship that the waves would never go through . . .’  Steve “Stickman” Casper demonstrates.

Do ATV’s Float?

So, after a few surf rides on the up­ended Mojave, we had quite a job ahead of us clearing out all the water from the fuel tank, float bowl, airbox, muffler, and engine block. As is the case with major drown-outs like this, the engine oil had to be changed several times before the tell-tale milky coloring went away.

So the answer to the question, “Do they float?” is some models not only float but can actually be ridden with a few modifications, while other quads, though they never completely sink, certainly aren’t rideable.

TECH TIPS TO KEEP YOUR QUAD ALIVE & KICKIN’…

Most of today’s stock quads are de­signed to handle really deep water and mud. There are, however, plenty of potential mechanical troubles that can crop up when you spend too much time “boating.” Following are some tips to keep your quad up and running when you are tackling deep water.

It’s running! Joe Lepore can actually float and boat his Foreman in the swamps of Florida. He hopes to market his deepwater snorkel idea soon.

• Before riding in mud and/or wa­ter, grease every moving part you can. One of the best lubes to use is min­ing-grade industrial grease; it’s really sticky and gooey and won’t wash out. Something that might be ea­sier to find is boat trailer wheel bearing grease, which also resists wa­ter and mud.

Do ATV’s Float?

• Don’t run an airbox with holes in it or with the lid off! Aftermarket airboxes aren’t good for deep water, ei­ther. You can build a duct-tape guard around the air scoop intake area to keep water from splashing in for the really extreme rides.

• Top Cross-Country racer Barry Hawk chooses a Twin-Air filter with Liquid Power Filter Oil (also available from Twin-Air). He says it works great at keeping everything out of the air intake. On top of that, he uses an Outerwears filter cover; it doesn’t even let water in.

• If you will be doing a lot of mud and water riding, your best bet is to run an O-ring chain. If you have a non-O-ring chain, make sure it gets lubed every time you go riding.

• Make sure the stator stays dry by checking to make sure the gasket is in good shape, and then seal off the cover with silicone.

• Anywhere there’s wire penetration into the cases, seal it off with silicone. If there’s a rubber boot at the base of it, secure it with a small zip-tie. Zip-ties can also be used on the rub­ber boots on the handlebar controls to keep mud out.

• On all electrical connections use high-electrolyte silicone grease. This keeps moisture and dirt out and the O-rings pliable. This includes spark plug caps as well (an unsealed spark plug cap will result in a missing en­gine after a dunking).

Do ATV’s Float?

• Polaris owners have to keep a special eye on the vent tube for the PVT belt-drive clutch. This tube normally runs up underneath the gas tank and poses no problem as long as the water level doesn’t get that high.

However, when the going gets real deep, water can quickly run down the tube into the tranny, causing the belt to slip and eventually bringing the machine to a halt. This doesn’t, in itself, cause serious damage.

The cure is to get the machine out of the water, cut the zip-tie at the base of the hose where it connects to the clutch cover, start the machine up in neutral and run it as the water spews out and the heat of the clutch dries it out. Don’t think you can just plug up the end of the vent tube—this will result in the PVT getting so hot that the clutch cover melts!

• If your quad has sealed brakes, take them apart occasionally and wash the brake drum cover with wa­ter and detergent. This will make them last quite a bit longer.

• If you spend a lot of time in deep water, you can reroute and add length to some of the vent tubes. How­ever, don’t get the overflow vent hose higher than the carb or it will flood the motor.

Stick-tastrophy! We could only accomplish this maneuver for a split second before the mighty Mojave turned turtle on us. Even the rubber balls we attached to the front and rear couldn’t keep it upright.

Do ATV’s Float?

• When the shaft drive gets hot and then cools during a long, deep stream crossing, the cooling air sucks wa­ter into the shaft unit through the vent hose (if there is one). The same thing can happen with a crankcase vent hose. You can avoid this problem simply by installing a one-way check valve (make sure it’s installed in the right direction!).

• Clean and take apart nearly ev­ery moving component and bearing as often as possible. Lube it up good. Water and mud are really tough on all moving parts.

• Check all fluids (crankcase, tranny, shaft, front four-wheel drive) after a deep water ride to see if any of the oil is milky (a sure sign that water got in there). It’s too late if you wait until you hear funny noises coming from the shaft drive—those types of re­pairs can be real expensive! If there is milky oil in the crankcase you can still ride it to get home, but take it slow and easy. Change it as soon as you can and then run it for a while. If it’s still milky, change it again.

• Sometimes water can get into the rear end bearing carrier. Because the bearings are sealed, the water can stay in there for quite a while and wreck the bearings.

• If you know you will be spending lots of time in real deep water, attach a snorkel to the exhaust pipe and route it to the top of the quad. When a four-stroke engine drowns out, water can sometimes be sucked back in through the exhaust and may bend a connecting rod.

HOW TO RESTART A DROWNED-OUT ATV

Do ATV’s Float?

If you will be playing around in real­ly deep water, the day will eventually come when you drown out your engine. There can be just one cause (such as a wet stator), or in most cases, a combination of a whole bunch of things (water in the airbox, cylinder and exhaust). By taking a me­thodical step-by-step approach, you can eliminate each of the troubles and get going again.

What can you do when your quad drowns out? Simply follow these easy steps to get it back running in no time.

Do ATV’s Float?

Step 1: Pull the ATV out of the wa­ter. Pop the lid off the airbox to see if that’s where the trouble originated. If that’s the case, pull out the spark plug, dry it off and set it aside. Dry out the spark plug cap with a dry cloth if possible. If the air filter is soaked, re­move it and wring it out.

Step 2: If it’s a four-stroke, turn off the ignition and kick it through, then watch all the water blow out the cyl­in­der and exhaust. If water keeps com­ing out of the exhaust, stand it up on the grab bar and let it drain out. If your machine is a two-stoke, turn the ATV on its side and kick it through to get the water out.

Step 3: Drain the float bowl. If you sus­pect that water got into the gas tank (you really have to sink a quad to do that), let the machine sit upright for a few minutes so the water can settle to the bottom. Then turn the fuel pet­cock to reserve and drain some gas out (reserve takes fuel from the very bottom of the tank).

Step 4: Once all the water is out of the system, replace the dry plug and air filter, pull on the choke, and try to start it. It will probably blubber and sputter, but don’t hit the throttle to try to dry it out! Just let the engine idle—if you rev an engine with water in it, you can cause serious internal damage. After a few minutes of idling, the engine should start drying itself out and sounding better. If it isn’t running at all, proceed to Step 5: otherwise, skip to “When You Get Home.”

Step 5: If none of the above has worked, either an electrical connection or the stator has gotten wet (the CDI boxes are usually sealed completely). If you have the tools, remove the flywheel cover to see if the stator is wet. If it is, dry it off. If not, start blow­ing out all the electrical connections. If your quad still won’t fire, and it’s beginning to get dark, start pushing!

Do ATV’s Float?

When you get home after a drown-out: Check all fluids (crankcase, tranny, shaft, front four-wheel drive). If any of the oil is milky, change it. Clean the air filter. Grease the heck out of everything you can (if you have zerks, blow out all the old grease com­pletely). Lube all your cables with a light oil (don’t use chain lube). Dis­assemble, clean and lube just about every part you have time for. Pull the flywheel cover off and spray down the stator with contact cleaner or WD-40. The next time you ride, check all the fluids again when you are done; the oil may still be milky from water left in there. In that case, change the oil again.

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